What is the BEST fta box on the market or coming out within the next month or so ?

[themangler]

just to clear up a few things about the nfusion. They do run off a bin when a solid solutions is out, but when the emc's are happenning like the past month, they use the IKS as a fall back. So you only are connected to the internet when there are no bin fixes out. They do not charge a support fee. As far as the IP tracing, that is definitly a possibility, but the same goes for downloading a bin from any fta site or an MP3, any file sharing software, or when you download any pirated program or movie. I have one and I dont really use it when my extreme is working becasue of the IP. There are defiinitly ways around using your own IP, but you basically need to steal signal from someone else. As far as the nfusion goes its a pretty basic machine. I like the features on my extreme better, but the picture quality on the nfusion is better then my viewsat and my pansat 3500.

[Lonewolf11l]

this would be a good time to find out if nfusion is still up and running while all else is down.

[Hardtimes#1]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf11l

this would be a good time to find out if nfusion is still up and running while all else is down.

I have had my Nfusion for 3 days, it has been down for 4 times this afternoon for 15 mins or so a time on diks...was down same time yesterday..saw in forums others say they are working on the servers...is that a fact?..no ideal...but bev has not as much blinked for 3 days...there are laps between channels changes...great guide..great picture,,I will use it to fall back to because of the ip deal...it is up only by using iks... I still like my VS ultra's and xtremes...

[Tremor28]

The Neosat Ipro 2000 is also an IKS box. They are alot new but make the same promises. I havn't really checked into their site since I found this one but they were suppose to have thier IKS online and fully functioning on BEV and Dish on Jan 5th. Same fears about IP's there but Decent units say's everyone I talked too. THey go for about $200 no fee. They also run on bin support when it's up. And IKS as a backup.
Just another option. I would asume... since Nfusion has been out for a while it will be the first IKS targeted STB so you might want to hop on the neosat train as it's taking off instead. I would be really surprised if both of them make it any more than 1-2 years without being shutdown but 2 years for $200 aint bad.
That's my penny and a half.

Oh yeah and if your aiming for just Bev my VS Pro has been great. Dish is a pain on it.

[larry164]

Nfusion and IKS (explained)
C/P

There is lot of roumour going on if IKS is secured. Well shortly it is - and it is not. Just to give you few points on security with IKS:

1) IKS runs on centralized server that is a share point to servers which relay on this server. Your box is connecting too relays not the IKS Server.

2) IKS servers require UDP connection, not TCP. You can think of UDP as more secure but the real difference is that UDP packets travell one way (request is send from the receiver and then fullfiled by the server but there is no guarantee on data delivery of the packet from the server meaning that server drops the link with requestor as soon as it get it - it may deliver it later on however). The relay - is really a relay in UDP sense - (request can be made to one server but another server may fullfil it). Since there is no constant connection beeing open it is almost impossible to catch the very small (tidy) request and data travel from boxes to IKS.

3) IKS Servers accept only connection that has receiver id attached to the data package. No request from PC or other device can be made -this really gives much trouble in idenfying what is the content of the IKS package or intercepting it. I am not sure it the package it self is beeing Encrypted somehow - but it will be easy to do if not. With Encrypted packages even if someone itercepts it - taht would become useless.

4) For the providers to hunt you down they will need to know servers that nFusion boxes are connecting too. To find out, they will have to intercept the traffic from the centralized server whcih is off-shore (but hard to do explained before). I could not locate the servers by looking at routers access logs - I can only find out the servers it is connecting too --- and surprisingly i saw different connections (rotating relays) --- which gives me positives vibes about IKS.

5) All the providers can do is to look that your connecetion is making some request or data that is beeing transfered from a server has been idenfied as suspicios - but before they can even take an action upon it - the new server can be set and there you go another round of finding it out will be needed. This is time consuming and very very tidious and expensive task (not that the providers can not afford it). Even if the provider proves that the traffic from your internet connection is suspicios - they can not prove that it came from your requests from your receiver (they can trace back anything beyong your router/modem).

6) "Dave" did go to small people on the first occasion of IKS (more then 10 years ago -- ohhh yes do not be surprised IKS is nothing new --- it has been used back in DAVE days computer was needed that will serve ready descrambled packages to the receiver using waffer boards - card emulators) - but "dave" had physical prove to against small people (hardware needed to make this function) - unlinke today (no additional hardware needed - so hard to tell if you are really wrongdoing something).

The final decision is always up to you to make. I do not wan to sound encouraging or disapointing - use your own judgment - do lots of reading - before you venture into somethign that may give you chills.

IKS doesn't mean you won't go down just that you come back up much faster.

If your hooked up to the net with your nfusion and you come home and turn your box on it will tell you if there is a new update and give you the option to update your box with the click of the remote button.

If your watching tv on stand alone (emu ON) and it goes down you simply click menu+user settings+emu off and IKS will kick in when you exit to tv.

99.9% of the time its IKS all the way.

I don't worry about anyone getting my ip from the nfusion IKS server as it does not collect anything other than an error log saying what failed.

Most have not noticed that IKS and Files are on 2 different servers and are ported to 1 that you are connected to.
That should be enough for people to guess there is more than 1 server at work here. I think last count there was 5 ported thru a chain across the web to 1 point of access. That point of access can be changed with a click of a button. So what if someone gets the main click boom somewhere else we go lol.

Anyone that wants to can easily run a proxy on your system and your bouncing around the world anyways.

Now to the whole sending keys things. The IKS does not at anytime send keys to your box.(illegal) It does how ever send data to your box so your box knows what to do to get itself going. Kind of like a A.I coding. No not any of the pyro team will explain that part for good reason. Why give up a trade secret lol. I hope this helps some of you out with what your wanting to know.

Hope this helps

GH

[drdwithaphd]

Just received my NFusion before B3V and DIk decide to play cat and mouse, and I'm really happy, never lost anything, while others have been scrambling for new updates.

Since then i got 2 more boxes and I'm really happy with, also the pvr function is good also, the only problem with that is that u must leave your computer on till u finish recording.